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Catapults and rally point level 20

Post  BGS on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:15 pm

I have read the main Travian forums on this issue and have found conflicting answers. Can someone who is absolutely sure of their answer from experience please let me know the true one?

When you get level 20 rally point and attack with 20+ catapults, you get to pick two targets. If you select two, are your catapults split, so that an attack with 20 catapults aiming at two targets would do 10 catapult damage to each? Or do the 20 catapults effectively fire twice, so that each of the two targets receives 20 catapult damage?

As I said, highly experienced players in the Travian forums give opposite answers to this question. It makes quite a difference because if the attack is split, then getting to level 20 RP is an expensive way of saving you setting up a few more waves. But if they attack twice, then that effectively doubles the number of catapults you have to work with and makes level 20 RP very attractive once you have more than about 80 catapults.

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Re: Catapults and rally point level 20

Post  Guest on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:25 pm

From experience the catapults split. So if you have 20 catas, 10 will fire on the first target and 10 will fire on the second target. It is attractive because you don't have to send as many waves when you get more catapults.

Meaning, with level 20 catas it takes 36 catapults to bring down a level 20 building with no stonemason. You can send 74 catapults and take down two building at the same time. Basically it makes less work for you. I like the level 20 RP, cause I'm a lazy bastard. Besides, it's not that expensive.

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Post  DZ|Cursez on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:28 pm

At level 20 they only get to shoot twice. Same dmg on every level of RP , the only difference is that they shoot twice.

Catapults do not split as far as i know. Example - if you send 40 catas 20 fire at one target , 20 on the other. All 40 fire on both targets.

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:30 pm

DZ|Cursez wrote:At level 20 they only get to shoot twice. Same dmg on every level of RP , the only difference is that they shoot twice.

Catapults do not split as far as i know. Example - if you send 40 catas 20 fire at one target , 20 on the other. All 40 fire on both targets.

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Right, they split between the two targets. They don't all fire on one target, then turn around and fire on the next target.

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Post  BGS on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:40 pm

Is that what Cursez is saying? Sounded to me like he was saying the opposite of what you were saying. I.e. that sending 36 catas aimed at two level 20 targets will bring them both down. Please clarify.

Rowsey ,you must have plenty of resources if you are willing to spend almost 200K in order to save you having to set up a few more waves.

PS Does someone have a list of how many catapults are needed for each level? Rowsey has said 36 for level 20, but what about all the others? Again, I seem to have found conflicting advice about this.

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Post  DZ|Cursez on Mon Feb 23, 2009 4:58 pm

I am saying they dont split.

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:12 pm

This debate can go on forever! LOL. I, like you BGS, have read conflicting resources everywhere. But I tried it. I sent 10 catapults they fired once. I sent 20 catapults with two targets, with the same result on both targets as I got with the 10 catapult strike. (Same target, same level buildings.)


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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 23, 2009 5:19 pm

BGS wrote:Is that what Cursez is saying? Sounded to me like he was saying the opposite of what you were saying. I.e. that sending 36 catas aimed at two level 20 targets will bring them both down. Please clarify.

Rowsey ,you must have plenty of resources if you are willing to spend almost 200K in order to save you having to set up a few more waves.

PS Does someone have a list of how many catapults are needed for each level? Rowsey has said 36 for level 20, but what about all the others? Again, I seem to have found conflicting advice about this.



Like I said, I'm lazy. It just makes it easier for me. I will get the level 20 RP, but not everyone feels this way.

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Re: Catapults and rally point level 20

Post  BGS on Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:03 pm

OK, thanks for clarifying. I'll break the bad news to Brush Monkey.

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Post  Guest on Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:27 pm

They fire twice. If they split, what would be the advantage? none.

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Post  BGS on Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:35 pm

The advantage would be the much smaller one of having to send less waves, which not only saves on time, but also makes it safer because the waves can be closer together and can have a larger escort.

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Post  V-La on Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:26 am

Well Logic and common sense would tell you that they split, catpults once fired can not destroy one target than turn around and aim at another they are catapulted like a rock in a slingshot.

I think they left it up to the players commone sense to tell you see example below:

40 catas 1 wave
target 1: MB target 2: Barracks
20 to barracks 20 to MB

The purpose of this is to minimize sending so many waves when you can take out 2 targets in 1 wave! Now the choice is up to you whether you want to pay the extra price to save on time and waves!

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Re: Catapults and rally point level 20

Post  TankGirl on Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:50 am

i confirm: they split.

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Re: Catapults and rally point level 20

Post  the_killjill on Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:21 am

lvl 20 RP + Tournament square = TT's raiding half the map in 2 hours. Isnt this what makes guals the shit in latter game.

add to that faster rein

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Post  Guest on Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:34 am

BGS wrote:Is that what Cursez is saying? Sounded to me like he was saying the opposite of what you were saying. I.e. that sending 36 catas aimed at two level 20 targets will bring them both down. Please clarify.

Rowsey ,you must have plenty of resources if you are willing to spend almost 200K in order to save you having to set up a few more waves.

PS Does someone have a list of how many catapults are needed for each level? Rowsey has said 36 for level 20, but what about all the others? Again, I seem to have found conflicting advice about this.



Here is the list without upgrades. Looking for the list with upgrades.

http://dhost.info/travian2005/Wiki/index.php/Catapult

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