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Post  the_killjill on Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:46 am

Hello LITErs

so i have been scanning the attack logs alot over the past few days to see who is raiding well and who isnt. i thought id share with you what i do to help make you all more successful.

first of all your raid zone should not exceed 13x13 at this stage of the game, that can increase with TT's, EI's and to some extent pallys. if you dont know what your 13x13 is its all the 7x7 that are next your yours, that includes diagonally.

why the 13x13 you ask, because time is your 4th resource. this will keep travel times to under 2 hours, which means no more then 4 hour round trip. this should suit most people who can check travian in the morning, then about lunch, then arvo, and then night, giving you 3-4 raids a day.

at first you only want to be targeting inactives, who are they you say, use these to find out
http://www.traviandope.com/closest.php?change_sid=17&act=search_pos&pos_x=-35&pos_y=97&idle_only=1
http://crop-finder.com/com6/active/ (also will find you 15 and 9 croppers)
http://travian-au.ttool.info/index.php?titre=mappy&sub=phpl&lang=au&language=com&filtering=inactive&serveur=new_s2_au&coordx=93&coordy=-23

i have used them all and i find traviandope to be the best as it list inactives by those closest to you.

So you have used those websites to find some inactives, now what. send out troops. if u dont have scouts then send small waves, the minimum you can send is 2. this way if there are troops (the websites arent 100% and they wont tell you if there are troops) you dont loose many guys, and if there is no res you havent wasted guys on a empty village.

if you do get res use this
http://travian-reports.net/us/raport.php?id=5ffde980f
it will tell you if your guys got all the res they can carry, if they didnt send another wave, if they got less then 100% wait a few hours till your next wave

Once you establish who the good farms are, hit them every day. continue to farm in actives in your 13x13. once you have a good sized force, i usually wait till over 100, its time to hit the actives. to be safe i only hit actives under 50% of my pop. send scouts, or a small wave first to see whats there. You need to be careful of these guys though, dont farm them all day long or they will delete, send a good sized force once a day or 2 and take there extra res, if you get nothing a few times, give it a rest for a few days, or raid them at diff times of the day and see when you get res, thats when you know they are asleep.

Now you should be getting a nice income flow, in early stages of the game i get about 75% of my res from raiding. i make about 300-400k a week raiding (as teut). although tuets have a great advantage early on, romans and gauls start to shine when you need to expand beyound your 13x13. TT's and EI's are great, i really miss having anything fast in a teut army. Use them wisely though. only use them on inactives since they cost so much.

the most important thing though is to protect your troops,. EVERY NIGHT i send my entire raiding force off on raids that will have them back in about 8 hours so they are safe. when you do this only ever send them to small and inactive players, at first the main thing is to keep them safe, latter on you will find some players 4 hours away who you know you will get res off and they will be your baby sitters/honey pot each night.

Being a good raider doesnt require you to be on alot, it just requires you to be efficient. use websites, write things down, be systematic in your raiding pattern and keep your troops alive and you will get a massive boost to your income. 300k res a week is the same as having 400 res production per hour per resource.

WALL OF TEXT OVER

if anyone has question feel free to ask, and most importantly, if anyone has further tips and ideas please share so we all grow stronger.

PS dont read this if your in my 13x13, those farms ARE MINE

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  Guest on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:12 am

As we all know, Australians are renowned for their literature.

the_killjill wrote:Hello LITErs

so i have been scanning the attack logs alot over the past few days to see who is raiding well and who isnt. i thought id share with you what i do to help make you all more successful.

first of all your raid zone should not exceed 13x13 at this stage of the game, that can increase with TT's, EI's and to some extent pallys. if you dont know what your 13x13 is its all the 7x7 that are next your yours, that includes diagonally.I don't mean to alarm you but the 7x7s around your 7x7s form a 21x21...

why the 13x13 you ask, because time is your 4th resource. this will keep travel times to under 2 hours, which means no more then 4 hour round trip. this should suit most people who can check travian in the morning, then about lunch, then arvo, and then night, giving you 3-4 raids a day. Assuming you send all your illegitimate citizens at the same fellow at the same time.

at first you only want to be targeting inactives, who are they you say, use these to find out
http://www.traviandope.com/closest.php?change_sid=17&act=search_pos&pos_x=-35&pos_y=97&idle_only=1
http://crop-finder.com/com6/active/ (also will find you 15 and 9 croppers)
http://travian-au.ttool.info/index.php?titre=mappy&sub=phpl&lang=au&language=com&filtering=inactive&serveur=new_s2_au&coordx=93&coordy=-23

i have used them all and i find traviandope to be the best as it list inactives by those closest to you.Also, it is illegal. Only a little though.

So you have used those websites to find some inactives, now what. send out troops. if u dont have scouts then send small waves, the minimum you can send is 2. this way if there are troops (the websites arent 100% and they wont tell you if there are troops) you dont loose many guys, and if there is no res you havent wasted guys on a empty village. As previously implied in the 3-4 raids a day.

if you do get res use this
http://travian-reports.net/us/raport.php?id=5ffde980f
it will tell you if your guys got all the res they can carry, if they didnt send another wave, if they got less then 100% wait a few hours till your next wave Or you could manually find out your unit capacities and use 3rd grade mathematics.

Once you establish who the good farms are, hit them every day. continue to farm in actives in your 13x13. once you have a good sized force, i usually wait till over 100, its time to hit the actives. to be safe i only hit actives under 50% of my pop. send scouts, or a small wave first to see whats there. You need to be careful of these guys though, dont farm them all day long or they will delete, send a good sized force once a day or 2 and take there extra res, if you get nothing a few times, give it a rest for a few days, or raid them at diff times of the day and see when you get res, thats when you know they are asleep. Psychological warfare- gotta love it.

Now you should be getting a nice income flow, in early stages of the game i get about 75% of my res from raiding. i make about 300-400k a week raiding (as teut). although tuets have a great advantage early on, romans and gauls start to shine when you need to expand beyound your 13x13. TT's and EI's are great, i really miss having anything fast in a teut army. Use them wisely though. only use them on inactives since they cost so much. Or people which you've scouted, people too small to possibly possess troops or people with so little troops that it doesn't matter.

the most important thing though is to protect your troops,. EVERY NIGHT i send my entire raiding force off on raids that will have them back in about 8 hours so they are safe. when you do this only ever send them to small and inactive players, at first the main thing is to keep them safe, latter on you will find some players 4 hours away who you know you will get res off and they will be your baby sitters/honey pot each night.

Being a good raider doesnt require you to be on alot, it just requires you to be efficient. use websites, write things down, be systematic in your raiding pattern and keep your troops alive and you will get a massive boost to your income. 300k res a week is the same as having 400 res production per hour per resource.Nope, but activity works wonders. Like gold.

WALL OF TEXT OVER

if anyone has question feel free to ask, and most importantly, if anyone has further tips and ideas please share so we all grow stronger.

PS dont read this if your in my 13x13, those farms ARE MINE


All in all a good guide. Sorry for being picky with minor mistakes, I like the Australian literature image at the highest standard.

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  superyee on Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:31 am

Bah Simmy is just jealous cause some1 else made a large post!!

Bad simmy BAD!! Evil or Very Mad

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  the_killjill on Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:43 pm

yes our engrish sucks i know, now in response to your reds

1) yeah i failed with the 13x13 i forget thats the extented PLUS map not the areas around you,

2) as for the programs being illegal, they arent run through the travian server, or with your email address or your travian account, so how will they ever know.

3) unless you raid with the exact same amount of troops for every single raid then using 3rd grade maths as you put it is far slower, takes 5 sec to copy and paste

Anyway i thought id put it up to help out a little with some of the newer lite people who dont seem to know what to do. after the call for rein this week i got alot of msg from people saying sorry cos they have no troops, this amazed me since troops are the winning factor in this game. i also saw how there are about 8 people who raid succesfully in our alliance.

I am interested though to know what numbers other people get to give me and idea of how im going

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  BGS on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:06 pm

Are you getting 3-400K/wk already? I am much larger and only got 600K from raiding last week. Wow, you're good.

PS As for working out whether your troops came back full, I mentally add the last digit of the four resources. If it doesn't add up to a 5 or 0, then I know they weren't full. If it's a 5 or 0 (and it's not obvious) then I have a calculator in my widgets that takes 3 seconds to add it up.

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  DZ|Cursez on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:20 pm

If you have travianBeyond you can see if they are full right away Razz

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Post  BGS on Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:31 pm

What is TravianBeyond?

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  the_killjill on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:06 pm

BGS wrote:Are you getting 3-400K/wk already? I am much larger and only got 600K from raiding last week. Wow, you're good.

PS As for working out whether your troops came back full, I mentally add the last digit of the four resources. If it doesn't add up to a 5 or 0, then I know they weren't full. If it's a 5 or 0 (and it's not obvious) then I have a calculator in my widgets that takes 3 seconds to add it up.


ive been hitting 300k for about 3 weeks now, but i have been building some defensive troops and upping my res pro lately and so havent expanded my raiding. it went up to 400k last week cos of 2nd villages troops

to give you an idea of how much i was bringing in, when i was building settlers i had res production in my village at about 150 per resource yet i manged all 3 settlers in 18 hours.

as for the calculating thing, i raid with pallys axes and clubs (not in same grp), its so much easier to copy paste, that being said i know basically how much is 100% and its only if im close to that number do i check to see, so i know weather to send 2nd wave. my raid sizes are usually aimed to get me about 75%, that way i dont waste to many troops, but i dont have to send a 2nd wave to continue clearing.

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  sumtwig07 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:16 pm

hi.....
ummm...
as for the 21x21 thing...

i have attacked every possible inactive using dope within 40 some fields...
and im lucky to come back with 25k resources a week...
I finally found 1.... yes 1 good farm where I am getting about 75% of all my plundered resources from..
I think I am just in a bad area...
plus.. I am noticing that there are those stupid teutonic raiders nearby so I can get much from raids because they are constantly putting resources under the cranny level....

what is travian beyond?

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Post  sumtwig07 on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:25 pm

edit... : P


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Post  DZ|Cursez on Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:41 pm

TravianBeyond is a script for travian and it is forbidden by the rules. Its hard to notice but if they catch you , you will be punished. Might get the account deleted. TravianBeyond has all the functions of Travian Plus account and some additional functions.

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  the_killjill on Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:04 am

sumtwig07 wrote:hi.....
ummm...
as for the 21x21 thing...

i have attacked every possible inactive using dope within 40 some fields...
and im lucky to come back with 25k resources a week...
I finally found 1.... yes 1 good farm where I am getting about 75% of all my plundered resources from..
I think I am just in a bad area...
plus.. I am noticing that there are those stupid teutonic raiders nearby so I can get much from raids because they are constantly putting resources under the cranny level....

what is travian beyond?


then you need to take out those tuetons, unless they are your allies, in that case dam...

if the inactives arent getting u much then hit the small actives, start at 50% below your pop and work up from there. my biggest candy shop is a Active who i have found out what time gets on travian due to the fact all his IGM comes at the same time of day, so i just hit him 1 hour before and an hour later i get "IM GONNA RAPE YOUR MUM AND BASH YOU"... angry little farms

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  sumtwig07 on Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:46 am

alliance Teuts....
I have been attacking small actives but all they do is cranny up...
or become members of a large alliance... and sorry... not attacking an alliance that is in the top 100 ...

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  Guest on Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:52 am

I honestly don't know about you guys, but when i look at the resource loot things, I almost always know whether it's a full load or not on first glance.

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Re: How to be a good robber

Post  the_killjill on Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:09 pm

Sergeant Simmy wrote:I honestly don't know about you guys, but when i look at the resource loot things, I almost always know whether it's a full load or not on first glance.


I agree i have an idea where it should be, but if its close i check. no point sending another wave if you got 98% of max res. (at least for a few hours)

Also i wrote this to help people starting, they mighten know as well yet

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