FUN - A Living Legacy

I didn't mean to open a can of worms. I was just stating my opinion and what I have seen in my very limited experience with alliances I have been a part of.

theres a large part of this story untold from both sides....also pedobear is your friend...

Simmy is talking about fairytales he don't believe in. I am shocked and shaken by a fact that you even dare to question some of the leaders now and then compare FUN to the last server. You were part of leadership last server and you know that shit was going on but you didn't care cause it didn't affect you. Yesterday I asked you several question about last server's shit. You replied only to one. Lemme ask again and people can see what was going on last server.

1. - Invidious stated that he kicked out a person cause of a mistake - " Due to shuffling on forums..." To kick a person you need to go to alliance,options,select kick a person,type his name, confirm with a password and then click ok.

2. - False statement - He said "We can live peacefully with VAO in the neighbourhood" - After exactly 48 hours he attacks. When I asked him why he said " his warehouses and granaries were full so blabla". When he got his 12000 crop of troops hurt , and i asked him about them, he posted a skull on a black background.

3. - Faking and acting - He made a post in which he was giving away gold and on the bottom of it he wrote " If you are a Serbian dont even ask ". I made a reply he deleted it. I made a second reply he deleted it and then changed the whole post erasing those words. And than he starts posting "Be well" as a reply to any post vs him made by me or VAO. And the grand finale , when i came on IRC after all that commotion , he banned me. Talking about faking and acting.

4. - I , more than ever, felt that FUN was separated last server. While we were in EMC , main looked completely different. No one ever said it. But now when I think about it , main was completely different wing. You didnt care about separatism back then Simmy cause you had invid lead you. FUN at the moment is united and i see no separatism at all. We had some probs 1-2 weeks ago but now its all settled.

5. - Suppressing of other leaders - Invid made FUN leadership a FUN solo leadership. Gonna tell you how. He was with EMC folks all the time ( kissing their asses ) so he had EMC behind his back. He was prepared to do anything they ask him to do so he has taken control of FUN. You didn't have problem back then huh Simmy? Ah yes thats because you were side by side with him.

I can make this list go very long but i decided to post other stuff some other time , if there is a need for it. The question for Simmy is - Looking at this shit list i would like to ask you where do you see shit on this server now? What did we do wrong? And what was so successful and marvelous on the previous server?

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Cursez, why do you insist on focusing on the quadrant of end game? I do not want last server's End Game, I did not pay much attention to It. If you're questioning me as to why I did not act that last server was because I was tied up. In real life and Out of it. It just so happened that it reached the end of the year at that point, and In Australian schooling,m the later in the year it is, the more tense school gets.

Why does it even matter what my views on Invidious were? He's not even part of this server. The only people even referring to him are you and VAO, talking about how much injustice and stuff of that genre he brought. Quite frankly, I do not know whether this is true or not and I do not intend to spend too much time divulging into that area as it causes unnecessary grief for a reason I quite frankly, and as you said, don't care very much about. Not only because it doesn't affect me but because When i think about it, has nothing to do, what so ever, with this server.

On the topic of last server, in regards to your 4th point, i was in the Second wing, not Main. I was with Dootzkie and Kaitlyn. The reason i did not feel the separation nor speak of it because it simply never occurred to me because personally, I had neither the time nor the interest to mingle in diplomacy and politics. What I did do, however, in the rare moments of free time, is talk to people on irc about what's up in the alliance and what we're doing, so i quite frankly, never felt the separation, nor had it ever occurred to me as an issue or that it even existed.

The Part I referred to was long before that. It was roughly when the SH was just beginning and the alliance was still young. I speak mainly of the 2nd, maybe 3rd quadrant of the server. At that point, We simply had a list of Croppers in the stronghold and you were free to get whichever you wanted. Sure, the alliance was not as strong, but it seemed allot more fun back then.

Last of all, remind me again why there is a taboo on me speaking of last server? Your Last server is focused alot on end game and when you guys had differences with invidious. The Last server i speak of was, once again, not that. Quite frankly, we got too serious in End Game, But that's only in a blurred hindsight.

I know nothing of last server except what has been posted here. At the risk of being shot by both sides, might I attempt some mediation. Correct me if I'm wrong. I have no agenda except to help us work together.

It sounds like Cursez and VAO were hurt on the previous server by the actions of a player no longer with us and that Simmy was not aware of those hurts. CZ and VAO feel like Simmy's criticisms are a defence of what was to them a painful experience. Simmy feels like he is not able to make criticisms about this server without being dismissed.

Might it help both sides if (a) Simmy were to acknowledge that CZ and VAO were burned and that has made them more cautious.

(b) CZ and VAO were to acknowledge that Simmy might not have been as involved in the bad stuff that happened as they think.

What do you think? Can people agree to these suggestions? Do they need to be modified?

I was not part of the last server, but I am enjoying this one. I think there is good reason to trust and work together as part of one team.

Peace.

I understand you Simmy. Only one thing you should know:
Invidious was nowhere near an important leader when the things were sweet. The worsening of FUN's spirit came when he came to supreme power, not before...

And doesn't that prove that It wasn't invid's leadership I wanted?

I honestly never said anything about how good or how bad invidious's leadership was. You simply assumed it was him that i was referring to..

My opinion is there is no use in speaking about the past.We have united together again,lets make this server interesting,pls everybody keep in mind that this is just a game,not RL.What will u gain from exchange of words between us.ultimately nothing,will result in bitterness and unhappiness.
I believe that all playing here are playing for FUN so pls keep that in mind and play together as friends.We all are from different countries but i want u people to work together and make this server a happy and successful one.

Sergeant Simmy wrote:And doesn't that prove that It wasn't invid's leadership I wanted?

I honestly never said anything about how good or how bad invidious's leadership was. You simply assumed it was him that i was referring to..

No, actually not.

It proves the contradictory in your thoughts.
You do want invidious, but you are not aware how many bad stuff it carries. All the bad stuff it carries you prescribe to someone other than him.

Can anyone else see VAO's logic of me wanting invidious by stating FUNs most glorious times were a time where he was not in power?

From what I've gathered, you think I want invidious's leadership simply because I was on good terms with him last server and worked with him...
And I assure you this is not true since you don't seem to show any evidence on that matter.

VAO, Simmy: can you each reply to my suggestion?

VAO:

You do want invidious.

I am not sure how this follows from what Simmy has said. He has said he is referring to a time before invidious became powerful. Can you explain how you think he wants invidious?

jackajay wrote:My opinion is there is no use in speaking about the past.We have united together again,lets make this server interesting,pls everybody keep in mind that this is just a game,not RL.What will u gain from exchange of words between us.ultimately nothing,will result in bitterness and unhappiness.
I believe that all playing here are playing for FUN so pls keep that in mind and play together as friends.We all are from different countries but i want u people to work together and make this server a happy and successful one.

Yes, this is indeed a game and thank you for this important reminder. However, it is a game that requires trust and communication. Let's keep in mind that this is only a game and take deep breaths and walk away from the computer for a while before replying to anything that makes you angry or excited. But it is also important to keep talking. This is particularly important online as we do not have body language and tone of voice to go on as well as words, so we need to say more, to over-explain our feelings and experiences and assumptions.

OMG!

Bunch of TL;DR!

jackajay wrote:My opinion is there is no use in speaking about the past. We have united together again, lets make this server interesting
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Agreed

Silly hobbits... I mean Simmy

Dootzkie wrote:Bunch of TL;DR!

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TL:DR- Too Long Dont read ?

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