Re: PM from TL commander

**VioletV** · **VioletV** on Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:32 pm

I second that! If we show them some diplomacy, they may prove to be very useful later on. I was very impressed by the tone of the message - it showed that the person who wrote it put some real thought in his response and was very honest.

Perhaps we can ask for a meeting between our leaders and their leaders to get a better idea of how their alliance works, per BGS's suggestion - call it an audit or something. I would also add in the mix that all members of our leadership should have access to their forum, with at least one member of our leadership having access to any leadership-only sections they may have. Then, one we get a better idea how they operate, we can dictate our terms for a peaceful co-existance such as weeding out their inactives, reserving croppers within a certain boundary line, etc.

BGS · BGS on Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:35 pm

I don't think we will be able to get access to their forums unless we become members of the TorrentLeech.org website.

EAM165 · EAM165 on Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:41 pm

hmm all these butt refences and anus refences interest me, but i agree we should make some stiff regulations and rules for a nap...i liked both dootz and cursez's suggestions...most of all i want them out of my SH i demand a WAAAAAHHH!!!(warhammer 40k refence) i like them making one power wing and i also support making them build right were they can provide us defence later in the game and give us a huge amount of extra crop BUT I WANT THEM ALWAY FOR MY SH and i demand that i not lose farms...or if thses can not be met i DEMAND A WAAAAAAAHHHH!!!!(warhammer 40k refence again)

EAM

V-La · V-La on Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:22 pm

I like Cursez idea also as far as keeping them around for farms, i doubt that will work since they cranny up like there is no tomorrow so the best bet is cata and clear out the inactive ones.

As far as there forum, from what diaperboy said they arent very active on there forum except the TL.org forum and that is currently not allowing any registrations from the forum creator. (and im positive this guy isnt the head guy of the TL.org forum). Aslo Diaper boy concluded that it isnt true they would be kicked for leaving the TL alliance.

And dootz the whole butt cheek anus reference...cute hahaha your going to level 1 hell dont forget that!!

Guest on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:24 pm

DZ|Cursez wrote:I'll tell you what i think. I know that 100 members in endgame could feed WW village better than 60 good members. Good members have troops , sucky ones dont so they have lot of crop. With TL deleted only 3 wings of FUN will remain in the SH with no potential recruits.

We can always put them to the test and if they backstab us , which i dont see how they can , we will chief their villages and farm them. Ever wondered what 160 000 160 000 160 000 160 000 loot looks like ? We can tell them to purge the ones that give away loot and keep only good ones. We can tell them to make a new wing in which they will put their best players. Also we can forbid them to take any cropper that is located in the SH, or at least make a boundary (example - any cropper who is within 40 radius of (-90/210) is FUN's and is forbidden for TL ).

There was alliance on s7 that recruited a lot of people who were sending crop to the WW. I mean huuuuuge number of people feeding the WW. When you have minus several million crop you dont really care who is sending crop. I say they make a selection of good ones, in NW only, and we stop attacking them. The rest will be kicked and farmed. I wouldnt like to see NAP with 150 + ranked alliance. Also they would be named TL only , without branches and other crap , so we can recognize them easily.

Thoughts ?

DZ|CZ

Exactly. We need to be considering endgame. We just need to see if we can all make it there without problems if we let them aboard.

Dootzkie · Dootzkie on Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:43 pm

V-La wrote:
And dootz the whole butt cheek anus reference...cute hahaha your going to level 1 hell dont forget that!!

Level one is Limbo! For good unbelievers.

Yoz · Yoz on Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:44 pm

Hmm, maybe if we ask them to ask their non NW members to restart in the NW. Plus we should get a confed with them to guarantee their loyalty since we all know nap means nothing. Plus I think we should form a meta with them, having 500 extra members under our belt will greatly increase our reputation on this server. We could say they can do their own thing but ultimately help us when we ask in return for attacking any potential large threats.

Diaperboy · Diaperboy on Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:06 pm

Honestly.

They do not have 500 members.

NW is their biggest Alliance (I think) and it has less then 70 on a waiting list and 68 members.

Active people I do not know about.

Honestly I would not be playing if it was not for FUN..

I only joined b/c of TL and they are unimpressive.

V-La · V-La on Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:11 pm

Yoz wrote:Hmm, maybe if we ask them to ask their non NW members to restart in the NW.

Have them restart?? thats a bit drastic dont you think? they would be TL LITE LITE LITE

Yoz · Yoz on Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:11 pm

lol, well the sooner the better, or they could just be destroyed instead after a few weeks. We should let them choose lol.

the_killjill · the_killjill on Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:21 pm

Ok heres my point of view

TL alliance will have loyalty to TL, no matter how we try and work them they wont be FUN they will be TL.

If you look at a map they are spread like a giant arch across the NW, shit house for being of any use.

NAP and confed with them will lower our cred not improve it, having a meta of farms and low players doesnt improve us.

If we do decide to accept diplomacy with them, then i suggest

We have them organised like our FUN alliance, with a upper and lower wing based on their players and who is growing faster.

Have them develop a SH, tell them to have their players settle a second village in a certain place, like our south/west side.

Tell them to GEt out of our SH. Thats our area, always has been always will.

I would like to say i dont think we should do this, they are ranked 150..........we have wiped out a few of their villages and now they are desperate. They wont be of any use to us in WW cos they will be being farmed by all the other alliances. Sure they cranny up , but a point comes when crannies mean shit

BGS · BGS on Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:12 pm

I agree with KJ. Don't confed or NAP with any of them in their current form, only if they start an elite wing that is worth linking ourselves with.

**VioletV** · **VioletV** on Thu Feb 26, 2009 9:37 pm

I think we need to give them a definitive answer on this before too long. I'll volunteer to be ambassador and deliver our terms if we can summarize and agree on exactly what we want them to be. Smile

**Kaitlyn** · **Kaitlyn** on Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:07 pm

the_killjill wrote:When the time comes for the next server, we can just find out what quad they are in and not go there. But that being said, 1000 bad players doesnt match 60 good ones

Couple other IGMs received stated that their organization will be better for the next server. They will be present and starting in the NW.

**Kaitlyn** · **Kaitlyn** on Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:17 pm

VioletV wrote:I think we need to give them a definitive answer on this before too long. I'll volunteer to be ambassador and deliver our terms if we can summarize and agree on exactly what we want them to be.

VV, my contact has been with Shenezade. See if he can kick the inactives/simmers and have him give us a list. Whoever is left, can be folded into our wings. KJ is right, the 2 NW TL wings are in an arc pattern thoughtout the NW which means they did start roughly at the same time. We could still recruit the better NW members and bring our 3 wings up to full strength. Through simple attrition, we can also weed out the inactives and others. Heaven forbid, FUN might gain a 4th wing. Also, bare in mind, we might find some decent peole with leadership qualities.