What next?

Hi to all ex or actual members of FUN's wings,

I read a lot these last 24h (that whas not the good day to take a day off with my wife and kid). I saw the reasons of both sides and you know what i don't understand anything!
For those who split for Nikani, I can heard your point of view but the way you did the whole thing was wrong. You made me change my alliance without an explanation. I thought it was general reorganisation of the wings, not a split. As i said to VV in a MM i was astonished when i saw that the name of the alliance was Nikani. Many people feeled abused! The fact that you remove access from the troop count make me feel that youre intentions are not so kind for FUN.

It seems there is no back move possible.

For the moment i fell like TG and many members: lost & sad because of the mess. But i have decided to stay in my family "FUN".

And now, as I said in the topic's title: What next

Military: What does mean the SH now. We have plenty of non FUN members now in hearth of our SH. What do we do? I very umconfortable with the fact to attack ex members of FUN (I never attack members of my former alliance BFD, except those who were inactives)

Diplomatic issues: do we have a chance to have back a confed with Nikani's wings. If you did that for the good of FUN VV & others, that would be possible. Or will we be in a few hours at war? Is the destruction of FUN the goal of all that mess for nikani & MNU? I stopped dev of my village within 24 hours to makes only troops.

As a conclusion, i'ts time to look forward. Leaders should do their job and not dismissed. We have to prepare ourselves for tough times and survival.

We have to move on!

Bhapu

Well summarised Bhapu. I've always enjoyed your perspective on things.

If Nikani have just announced open season on FUN, it seems the choice for everyone might actually be a little simpler: will you come back and join a truly FUN and epic battle, or will you try to sit on the sidelines while your new friends try to kill your old friends?

When you are prepared to give transparency and the ability for members to vote on important issues and become the democracy you all so love to talk about I would certainly consider it.

Also V-La should be the full commander of FUN-LITE seeing as she is the one who has put in pretty much 'all' the work.

At the moment all I get are IGM's off FUN*F saying they have passed information to MNU, what exactly is that, you are giving information to the people who have been attacking you and whom you call pitiful attackers.

as you certainly knows, BGS, as the Ecclesiast said "there is a time for all"
I think "explanation time" is over, otherwise in 1 week we will still be at the same point. For me no matter who is wrong and who is right. What has be done is done!
Everbody has his reasons and everybody will deal whis is conscience from now.

Choices have to be made
Decisions have to be taken.

I do not like that, but people that have leaved for Nikani have to be banned from FUN forum now (maybe it's already done, i just don't know). May be they can have access to the application topic for contact. Nikani cancelled confed without offering a NAP, so they're potential ennemies, it's very sad but real.

Are we OK with leadership of the 2 FUNF wings?
VLa are you deleting or are you the leader of the Lite wing as many members (like me) hope so?
Is communication between leaders OK? Informations have to be given to the members.

Because you know what on the "attack" board of LITE I only see incoming attacks from many alliances. More than that i saw attacks from FUNF*F members against FUN LITE members???

That's not good, we have to react, otherwise we will be easy catch for Nikani if they "open season" on us.

Is the MNU annoncement real DZ? Will we have a clear answer in the next 24 h? A confed? Otherwise i think threy're joking us.

As i said, for the moment i climb walls, make troops and wait

As conclusion, it's just a game so we have to play!

Bhapu, good questions! I will try to answer those that I can.

I don't not think that we will have an MNU in the next 24 hours. Diplomacy doesn't work like that. But there is quite a decent chance that Nikani will find themselves facing their own problems before the next week is out. I actually am now persuaded that we may be in one of the best positions we have been in for many months. Notice the new confeds that will appear over the next few days or week or so.

There is only one FUN*F wing and one FUN LITE wing. We will be re-starting a new wing soon for some of those returning from Nikani and some new friends who will be joining us.

Please be assured that leaders are communicating a great deal. Some of this is here on the forums, some is on Skype, some is on IGM. I think that our communication skills have all improved.

I am really not sure about the attack you mention. I have not seen that. That is certainly not the policy of FUN*F. If there was a one-off infraction in the confusion, I am sure there is an explanation or that there will be compensation.

Keep building those walls and troops.

Peace,
BGS

BGS FYI
Subject: 1) Carnage attacks shemena
sent: on 03.04.09 at 00:11:50 o'clock


Attacker yoz from the village 1) Carnage

Defender namroth from the village shemena


Thanks for the answers. I understand perfectly that "diplomacy" takes time!
I try to understand what is going on, not easy, there are too many topics.

VioletV wrote:I would like to propose that the most rational and most deserving of the title of "leader" assume the leadership role of the alliance. In my mind, those two individuals would be BGS and BIG.BOSS. Everyone else in leadership has had a large hand in creating this mess, were all in the wrong in one way or another, and should step down.

If i understand well:
VV asked that Dootz, EAM165, Versusallodds & Cursez to be removed as leaders? Here is my question (it is not ironical in any way)! What will be the benefit for us. What is wrong with them, i didn't follow FUN*F internal affairs.
Will people from NikaniF & other former members on FUN main come back?

How trustfull can VV be? I read the internal MM from Nikani posted on the forum. She did'nt denied it! She can't explain that only because insults & threats were send.

VioletV wrote:One other point to consider: if FUN*F had not responded to the events of yesterday by using abusive language towards Nikani and threatening & attacking members of the new Nikani F wing in retaliation, would such an order have been issued?

Can we put aside emotionnal issues (like threat MM, & insults that were send last 24h), it was a complete mess (despite i never send a message like that because counterproductive).
How can you accept that VV? I ask the question because you said you've done everything for the good of fun. For the moment i don't see the good side (that's ironical).

I'm tired with personnal issues that seems to be the only reasons of this mess.

When you will have time, BGS, i'm curious to know how our situation is better?

EDIT: PS: MNU-A canceled the NAP with FUN LITE. 03.04.09 13:08
That's a good answer

I am soon to put up another post to show our improving situation. Give me another hour or two.

As for yoz attacking namroth, I am sure that was a misunderstanding and am checking now. I suspect that yoz will be happy to pay some compensation.

UPDATE: Nothing was stolen and no compensation was necessary.

BGS: that wasn't a big deal Yoz/Namroth (12 spears lost & no bounty) but i was surprised

So was I. Perhaps it was a mistake in the confusion of yesterday. As I said, I'm investigating.

Namroth is my sitter/sitee this is the message exchange between me and yoz



he joined nikani and changed his mind when he saw my attacks incoming
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comer wrote:

hello yoz, Why are you attacking namroth? he is still a member of fun


yoz did reimburse namroth for the attacks i think it was just a heat of the moment thing.